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Joan Jett and the Blackhearts - Crimson and Clover (ft. Tommy James, Dave Grohl and Miley Cyrus)


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 11:49 PM

I always preferred the original Tommy James and the Shondells version over Joan's effort, but happened to stumble upon this gobsmackingly good performance.

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:35 AM

I agree, the Shonells were great. My older brother and I got to meet them back in 1966 at an auto show they were playing in St Louis, Mo.  I remember the original Batmobile was one of the exhibits, along with the Munstermobile and Ed "Big Daddy" Roths (showing your age if you remember him) "Mysterion" car.

 

Anyway, the thing was being held at the old Kiel Auditorium and the Shondells were set up on a stage in the middle of the thing playing ten or fifteen minute sets - they were pretty big at the time. During an intermission my older brother (who was fifteen, as I was about ten) went up to the stage to see if he could talk to some of the band members. Ol' Tommy James himself and one of the guys bent down to talk with him/us.  I remember the drummer was there, too; he was wearing an American Revolutionary tricorn hat. At that time the tricorn was the trademark of Paul Revere and the Raiders.

 

I remember the guys listening to my brother talk about our backyard garage band, some of my brothers friends and me (who as the runt, played bass) we'd done a couple parties and a couple freebies. They were very patient and encouraging. I looked over at the drummer wearing the tricorn and asked him where he got his hat from.  He looked at me and grinned, "From a dead Raider."

 

I still smile at that one. I also have a warm place in my heart for Tommy James and the Shondells for taking their time to encourage a couple of kids.



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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:53 AM

I agree, the Shonells were great. My older brother and I got to meet them back in 1966 at an auto show they were playing in St Louis, Mo.  I remember the original Batmobile was one of the exhibits, along with the Munstermobile and Ed "Big Daddy" Roths (showing your age if you remember him) "Mysterion" car.

 

Anyway, the thing was being held at the old Kiel Auditorium and the Shondells were set up on a stage in the middle of the thing playing ten or fifteen minute sets - they were pretty big at the time. During an intermission my older brother (who was fifteen, as I was about ten) went up to the stage to see if he could talk to some of the band members. Ol' Tommy James himself and one of the guys bent down to talk with him/us.  I remember the drummer was there, too; he was wearing an American Revolutionary tricorn hat. At that time the tricorn was the trademark of Paul Revere and the Raiders.

 

I remember the guys listening to my brother talk about our backyard garage band, some of my brothers friends and me (who as the runt, played bass) we'd done a couple parties and a couple freebies. They were very patient and encouraging. I looked over at the drummer wearing the tricorn and asked him where he got his hat from.  He looked at me and grinned, "From a dead Raider."

 

I still smile at that one. I also have a warm place in my heart for Tommy James and the Shondells for taking their time to encourage a couple of kids.

 

One thing's for sure mate; you always have some fascinating stories to tell. I've a feeling you and I would enjoy an evening over a couple of quiet pints and having a good old blether in some nice British pub.

Please keep it going as these kind of posts are up there with the highlights of this forum.

Here's the original. Now I'm not certain, so don't quote me, but do suspect this clip is from The Ed Sullivan show circa 1968, or maybe 1969.

 


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 03:21 PM

Yep, here is another vote for the Shondells version.  It had a stick in your head quality that was hard to avoid.

 

I assume you guys know this but the song contains a tremolo effect on the guitar, set so that it vibrated in time with the song's rhythm. Near the end of the recording session, the band had an idea of utilizing the tremolo effect with vocals. So they plugged the voice microphone into an Ampeg guitar amplifier with tremolo turned on, and the output from the amplifier was recorded while James sang "Crimson and clover, over and over".  This gave those lyrics their distinctive quality.  This was the Shondells best release by far, selling over 5 million copies originally.


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